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		<title>By: James Hardee</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Hardee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 19:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chandra,

I do not disagree with your opinion however; security must be the highest priority.  As you are well aware there are multiple levels of security.  Obviously there is physical security and we have all read in our papers, including Mumbai, about physical attacks by terrorist groups.  Mumbai is not the only terrorist activity which has occurred in India.  Unfortunately, I doubt it will be the last.  Of course, I am also concerned about security in the US as well.  Of course security also involves the topics of identify theft, corporate espionage, propreitary information, confidentiality and especially for the US patient confidentiality.

Out sourcing is one component of our emerging global economy.  What happens globally is now impacting us all more quickly and in a much more profound way than in the past.  In the US many fear socialism however; the socialism of India has escalated the development of India.  It is also controlling and retaining the ownership of the Indian economy.  Much of what the India government is doing, is protecting India from the G4 nations.

I really hope that globally the &quot;little guys&quot; can connect and help each other prospers.  Too often the phrase &quot;The rich get richer while the poor get poorer&quot; seems to have held true in the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chandra,</p>
<p>I do not disagree with your opinion however; security must be the highest priority.  As you are well aware there are multiple levels of security.  Obviously there is physical security and we have all read in our papers, including Mumbai, about physical attacks by terrorist groups.  Mumbai is not the only terrorist activity which has occurred in India.  Unfortunately, I doubt it will be the last.  Of course, I am also concerned about security in the US as well.  Of course security also involves the topics of identify theft, corporate espionage, propreitary information, confidentiality and especially for the US patient confidentiality.</p>
<p>Out sourcing is one component of our emerging global economy.  What happens globally is now impacting us all more quickly and in a much more profound way than in the past.  In the US many fear socialism however; the socialism of India has escalated the development of India.  It is also controlling and retaining the ownership of the Indian economy.  Much of what the India government is doing, is protecting India from the G4 nations.</p>
<p>I really hope that globally the &#8220;little guys&#8221; can connect and help each other prospers.  Too often the phrase &#8220;The rich get richer while the poor get poorer&#8221; seems to have held true in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: Chandra Mouli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chandra Mouli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 17:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting and diverse comments from benefits to Risks and osama attacking India. As some one been in the IT industry for ages now and been in the forefront of IT outsourcing, I think some of the arguments are valid to US as well. Security is a big issue every where. Skills are definitely a bigger issue as well. In my view more than outsourcing as a decision today&#039;s business are increasingly under pressure to increase revenue and control costs. US had traditionally been buying goods from china excepting for the fact that these are branded by the American companies in their own name. We now see the same American companies in India setting up 100% own subsidiaries leveraging the low cost model. 

the bigger issue today and it is a fact as well the demographics and age profile of the western economies are not sustainable to drive the technology of the future. We need to admit it. Looking at India in particular the country is probably the youngest in the world and probably about to reap demographic dividends because of the young workforce. With the advent of internet and the networks today the innovation quotient is moving towards Asia in particular and the emerging economies are in particular about to steal the lunch of the western economies. 

Instead of taking a negative stand on the outsourcing and it will be good for the western companies more particularly the technology leaders to take a proactive approach and innovate across the global network and make products which are innovative, disruptive, leading edge and at significantly low cost. So be it if the work is done from India, china or russia. Like the Chinese who manufacture for the western companies these countries may deliver and develop software for the western world with greater efficiency and at a significant speed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting and diverse comments from benefits to Risks and osama attacking India. As some one been in the IT industry for ages now and been in the forefront of IT outsourcing, I think some of the arguments are valid to US as well. Security is a big issue every where. Skills are definitely a bigger issue as well. In my view more than outsourcing as a decision today&#8217;s business are increasingly under pressure to increase revenue and control costs. US had traditionally been buying goods from china excepting for the fact that these are branded by the American companies in their own name. We now see the same American companies in India setting up 100% own subsidiaries leveraging the low cost model. </p>
<p>the bigger issue today and it is a fact as well the demographics and age profile of the western economies are not sustainable to drive the technology of the future. We need to admit it. Looking at India in particular the country is probably the youngest in the world and probably about to reap demographic dividends because of the young workforce. With the advent of internet and the networks today the innovation quotient is moving towards Asia in particular and the emerging economies are in particular about to steal the lunch of the western economies. </p>
<p>Instead of taking a negative stand on the outsourcing and it will be good for the western companies more particularly the technology leaders to take a proactive approach and innovate across the global network and make products which are innovative, disruptive, leading edge and at significantly low cost. So be it if the work is done from India, china or russia. Like the Chinese who manufacture for the western companies these countries may deliver and develop software for the western world with greater efficiency and at a significant speed.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 22:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been done plenty of times, usually by someone that is an immigrant or otherwise has strong contacts/ties to the country where development would occur. In those situations I wouldn&#039;t consider it risky....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been done plenty of times, usually by someone that is an immigrant or otherwise has strong contacts/ties to the country where development would occur. In those situations I wouldn&#8217;t consider it risky&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Shreesh Holla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shreesh Holla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 22:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if anyone here has any comments on an offshoring model for an early stage venture i.e. a company that starts off its operations by using an offshore model directly for sofwtare development? And on the same note using a branch office of its own i.e. maintain only a corporate office here in the US. What experiences have occurred in both situations? Risky?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if anyone here has any comments on an offshoring model for an early stage venture i.e. a company that starts off its operations by using an offshore model directly for sofwtare development? And on the same note using a branch office of its own i.e. maintain only a corporate office here in the US. What experiences have occurred in both situations? Risky?</p>
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		<title>By: James Hardee</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Hardee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 15:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off shore contracting is an extremely complicated issue.  I am sorry but, off shoring has nothing to do with a lack of resources.  It has to do with expense and nothing more.  I have several friends from India.  Some of them work for off shore companies in India, some of them work for them here in the U.S. and some of them are full time employees here.

The reality is that India&#039;s out sourcing is run by the highest classes of India.  They control the politics necessary to build the infrastructure, the education, and the sales.  The laws of India prevent any foreign country from coming in and &quot;owning&quot; an out sourcing company.  In all cases these companies, even an IBM, must be partnered with an Indian entity. The wages paid to Indian developers is not comparable to their U.S., Canadian, or European counter parts.  The difference goes to those running things.  

It would make sense for small U.S. companies who cannot afford the potentially high expense of software development to link up with small software development companies in India.  In this case the U.S. company would get a real benefit and the U.S. company could pay the Indian developers a competitve wage.  Unfortunately this is not what is going on.  The companies who can traditionally support the expense of software development in the U.S., Canada and Europe have bought the expense / expertise of the Indian upper class.  The consequence is less demand and lower wages for U.S., Canadian, and European developers.  Young Americans see this trend and are moving away from this career path.  In the future the argument for &quot;lack of resources&quot; will become a reality.

The country of India and the people are amazing and beautiful however; India is politically unstable.  As the out sourcing industry attempts to grow the infrastructure projects and conflicting with the housing and sanitation needs of the India society proper.  The gap between the out sourcing sales / ownership  class versus the out sourcing work force is only going to bring more tension to the political situation in India.  If I were Osama Bin Laden I would not attack targets in the U.S..  I would attack targets in India who are supporting U.S. businesses.  It is much easier to get such forces through Pakistan to India or from Malaysia to India.  The effects would be absolutely devasting to our economy.

The goal of the 9/11 attack on the twin towers was economic.  It was very successful.  Far more succesful than anyone cares to admit.  While I hope that ultimately out sourcing helps the developers in India and other nations of the world, I think it is a highly risky enterprise.  I think it is a house built of cards.  A strong political wind will destroy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off shore contracting is an extremely complicated issue.  I am sorry but, off shoring has nothing to do with a lack of resources.  It has to do with expense and nothing more.  I have several friends from India.  Some of them work for off shore companies in India, some of them work for them here in the U.S. and some of them are full time employees here.</p>
<p>The reality is that India&#8217;s out sourcing is run by the highest classes of India.  They control the politics necessary to build the infrastructure, the education, and the sales.  The laws of India prevent any foreign country from coming in and &#8220;owning&#8221; an out sourcing company.  In all cases these companies, even an IBM, must be partnered with an Indian entity. The wages paid to Indian developers is not comparable to their U.S., Canadian, or European counter parts.  The difference goes to those running things.  </p>
<p>It would make sense for small U.S. companies who cannot afford the potentially high expense of software development to link up with small software development companies in India.  In this case the U.S. company would get a real benefit and the U.S. company could pay the Indian developers a competitve wage.  Unfortunately this is not what is going on.  The companies who can traditionally support the expense of software development in the U.S., Canada and Europe have bought the expense / expertise of the Indian upper class.  The consequence is less demand and lower wages for U.S., Canadian, and European developers.  Young Americans see this trend and are moving away from this career path.  In the future the argument for &#8220;lack of resources&#8221; will become a reality.</p>
<p>The country of India and the people are amazing and beautiful however; India is politically unstable.  As the out sourcing industry attempts to grow the infrastructure projects and conflicting with the housing and sanitation needs of the India society proper.  The gap between the out sourcing sales / ownership  class versus the out sourcing work force is only going to bring more tension to the political situation in India.  If I were Osama Bin Laden I would not attack targets in the U.S..  I would attack targets in India who are supporting U.S. businesses.  It is much easier to get such forces through Pakistan to India or from Malaysia to India.  The effects would be absolutely devasting to our economy.</p>
<p>The goal of the 9/11 attack on the twin towers was economic.  It was very successful.  Far more succesful than anyone cares to admit.  While I hope that ultimately out sourcing helps the developers in India and other nations of the world, I think it is a highly risky enterprise.  I think it is a house built of cards.  A strong political wind will destroy it.</p>
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