Integrating Sales and Marketing at Software and Technology Companies

In some, but not all tech companies, the Sales and Marketing functions are managed separately. They are separate, but closely related functions that some people (especially technical folks) have a tendency to confuse. Normally, there is a VP or Director heading up the Marketing department, and another VP or Director leading the Sales staff. But it is also not unusual to see a VP or Director of Sales & Marketing who leads both functions at once.

This all seems benign enough, so what's the issue? The issue comes when actual revenue fails to meet the forecast--that's when the finger-pointing usually begins. Unfortunately, not meeting forecasts is a common event in technology businesses, where forecasting of new software and tech products can be particularly challenging. When that finger-pointing starts, it often breaks out first between the Marketing and Sales departments--here's how the ensuing "discussion" might go:

SALES: "You haven't planned products that our customers want to by. You've priced them too high. And those leads that you've spent SO MUCH money on that you are giving us aren't qualified, and are essentially worthless to us."

MARKETING: "You're not selling the right products as we directed, or presenting the positioning of our product line properly. All you do is try to sell on price, constantly discounting and hurting our margins. If you'd follow up on all the leads we gave you, get off of the golf course and work more than 4 hours a day, you'd be well over quota and the company would be doing fine."

Sales folks and Marketers are different types of people, and tend to view the world differently and from their own selfish perspectives. This often nasty "discussion" as simulated above is far from uncommon, and can get pretty ugly--which can really hurt a company in trying to reach its goals. So what's the right way to get the Sales and Marketing departments to work together as a team, avoiding all of this counter-productive ugliness?

SOLUTIONS TO REDUCE POTENTIAL CONFLICT


The VP of Sales & Marketing
One way to greatly reduce this conflict is to have a common leadership for the Sales and Marketing functions. This usually means having a VP-Sales & Marketing in your organization. If you can find the right person to fill this role, this can actually be a very good solution. Having a single leader can go a long way toward eliminating or at least greatly reducing this conflict, assuming he has a balanced background and perspective, and is fair, not favoring one department over the other. Good people to fill this role are out there--but are very rare, in my opinion. There are far more managers who have been put in the position of VP-Sales & Marketing than there are those who were suited for the role. Most of the time you end up with a manager that understands one function well, and gives short shrift to or completely screws up the other function. . You will often find this combined VP position in companies that are not "marketing-intensive", where the sales function is the dominant aspect of the job. If the Marketing function is truly less important, a company can get by with this structure, although it usually isn't ideal. You can read more about the issues with a VP-Sales & Marketing role in a previous article that I've written entitled "Big S, little m".

CEO Demands Communication and Cooperation
If care isn't taken, the very different personality types in sales and marketing can lead to some pretty intense conflicts. I've been a soldier, captain and general in this war--and let me tell you, it isn't pretty. I've also (effectively) filled the role of VP-Sales & Marketing, which is a story for another day. Much like the battles between Marketing and Engineering that I've previously written about, I have seen this battle play out regularly in the companies that I have worked for as an employee, as well as at many of my clients in eight years as a consultant at PJM Consulting. Things can get out of hand very quickly, and paralyze a company. In many cases, the key is how the CEO handles the situation. He must go well out of his way to be a fair arbitrator in these discussions. Even the most benign comment can appear to show favor to one side, in the eyes of the other. Don't ignore or deny the problem, or assume it will be handled at the VP level. It is the CEO's responsibility to prevent, recognize and fix this problem. Be careful that you don't inadvertently make decisions or set up policies that reward or tolerate company politics.

Departmental Social Integration
I recommend planning activities which allow sales and marketing counterparts to get to know each other as "people" outside of their project activities. In many ways a successful outcome is all about relationships, so closely monitor the personal relationship between VP-Marketing and VP-Sales. Also, make sure that the VPs are monitoring the relationships below them. Ensure both VPs are open and honest with about the relationship between departments. Also watch for arrogance (especially from "experienced veterans") when screening potential new hires for either department that will interface with the other --arrogance often usually the trigger which starts the battle rolling

Integration of Departmental Functions
Encourage the sales department to get marketers in front of their customers. Hire marketing people that have had some sales or business development experience, who understand dealing directly with customers--and know what's it like when your living depends upon making your quota. Insist that the marketing department include the sales folks in determining what a "qualified lead" looks like. If you can get agreement on this up front on this important issue, much of the finger pointing goes away when things don't go as planned.

Joint Goals and Compensation Structure
It currently isn't common to design department or individual goals which cross marketing and sales functions, but if you can find a way to do this, you are structurally setting up the desire and need for close cooperation. Design goals and MBOs to reward the two departments for working together. Also, don't ever allow one department to "get ahead" by blaming the other--tie them together as much as possible in your goal setting.


SUMMARY

To limit issues between sales and marketing functions and ensure that they "sing from the same sheet', make sure to pay close attention to the individual departmental activities, which can nevertheless greatly effect the perceived performance of the other department. Optimizing the cooperation between sales and marketing demands an up front look at things such as the corporate structure at the highest levels, the social fabric of the company, compensation structure and use of MBOs, and formal cross-departmental reviews so each department can influence the other department's approaches. All too often in my practice at PJM Consulting, these things aren't taken into consideration until after the fact--when things have already blown up and there is a mess to clean up.

That's my view on this all too common conflict. What has been your experience in this area? Post a comment and begin a discussion.

Phil Morettini
PJM Consulting
www.pjmconsult.com

Integrating the Marketing and Engineering Functions at Technology Companies

In most tech companies, Product Marketing and Product Development/Engineering are managed separately. There is usually a VP over the Product Development function and another over the overall marketing function, which usually includes future product marketing/planning.

While this is certainly an appropriate way to organize a tech company, there is a great danger in one are when it comes to these separate operating "silos": the planning of new products.

I have a particularly strong opinion on this topic, with an extensive product marketing background and also having worked as a product developer earlier in my career (albeit in a non-tech business).

With respect to current products, the silo approach isn't much of an issue. The day-to-day activities of the marketing and engineering departments are very different, and can be managed separately quite successfully.

It's in the future product area that things can get messy. Product Marketing and Product Development both have a key role to play here, if the company is to optimize the process of planning, developing and introducing the best new product possible. The problems is that at every level, from the VP-level down to the engineering project managers and marketing product managers, the product marketing and engineering functions are often staffed by individuals with very different world outlooks when compared to their direct counterparts in the other department.

Inevitably, if care isn't taken, these very different personality types can lead to some pretty intense conflicts. I've been a soldier, captain and general in this war--and let me tell you, it isn't pretty. The battlefield often is a company's strategic plan, which ends up in a trampled mess. I have seen this battle play out regularly in the companies that I have worked for as an employee, as well as at many of my clients in eight years as a consultant at PJM Consulting. It sometimes gets so ugly it paralyzes a company, putting it at a severe disadvantage vs. competitors who have less of a conflict.

THE "WRONG" WAYS TO HANDLE THIS POTENTIAL PROBLEM

Unfortunately, most CEOs that I meet are not all that in tune to how damaging these conflicts can become.

Often they will ignore or deny the problem, thinking it is a responsibility to be handled at the VP level.

Another strategy that I have seen companies put in place is to extract the product planning function from the marketing department, and put it under engineering. This will often greatly reduce or eliminate the conflict, but it akin to throwing the baby out with the bathwater. As I said earlier, both marketing and engineering have a key role to play in product planning. This strategy effectively removes the voice of the customer, which is a key role that the marketing department should be playing in any successful software or tech company. As much as product developers think it looks easy, they almost never have the mentality or experience to accurately read markets or customers. Almost no one is great at everything; monitoring and reading markets, and technical product development, are two very different skill sets. Having both mentalities involved in a positive way leads to far better products in the end.

Finally, if they happen to have come from one side of the battle or the other, CEOs sometimes "take sides" in the battle--predetermining the winner. The problem is there is never any real winner in this battle--and the only certain loser is the company and its shareholders.

A CEO can choose to let Marketing have the upper hand--and this may work out adequately in commodity products where there is very little engineering differentiation. In any other circumstance, results will likely be sub-optimal.

Or he can let Engineering win and dominate the planning process--which is a very common occurrence in early stage, technically-driven software and tech companies. But this generally only works well for products made by engineers, built for engineers (the early days of Hewlett Packard are an example of this strategy working successfully). For every company that has used this approach successfully, there are probably hundreds or even thousands that failed in large part because of it.

Ultimately, to make sure that this conflict and its dire consequences are to be avoided, there is one key thing that needs to happen:

IT IS THE CEO'S RESPONSIBILITY TO PREVENT, RECOGNIZE AND FIX THIS PROBLEM.

So what steps can a software or tech CEO take to be on the lookout for this problem--and more importantly, what can they do to prevent it from developing?

*It's all about relationships: closely monitor the personal relationship between VP-Marketing and VP-Engineering
*Make sure that the VPs are monitoring the relationships below them
*Make sure they are both VPs are open and honest with you about the relationship between departments
*Plan activities which allow engineering and marketing counterparts to get to know each other as "people" outside of their project activities
*Be careful that you don't inadvertently make decisions or set up policies that reward or tolerate politics
*Design goals and MBOs to reward the two departments for working together
*Don't ever allow one department to "get ahead" by blaming the other--tie them together as much as possible
*Hire marketing personnel that can talk the language of engineers
*Screen product development hires who will interact with Marketing for the not uncommon attitude that engineers are "superior" human beings
*Encourage the marketing department to get product developers in front of customers
*Watch out for arrogance when screening potential new hires for either department that will interface with the other --arrogance is usually the trigger which starts the battle rolling

SUMMARY

Marketing/Engineering conflict over the product planning process is a common problem that is often overlooked by tech company CEOs. A certain amount of creative tension can exist between the two departments, and be totally healthy. All too often, though, this tension turns into a bloody fight which is destructive to the company's prospects. It is not "fait accompli", however. It can be minimized and even prevented by a watchful and proactive CEO.

That's my take on a common issue which is rarely discussed out loud. Have you had your own issues in this area? Post a comment to add to our discussion.


Phil Morettini
PJM Consulting
www.pjmconsult.com

Dell Computer

Dell has been in the news recently, and like many big companies that have had a glitch in their performance, not in a good way.

Slowing revenue growth, accounting scandals and customer service issues--you've heard it all before. By the way, where was the seminar that all big company managements attended, encouraging them to cut corners on their financial reporting practices? It seems that the same pattern has been replicated to an astounding degree across a broad array of large corporations. There has to be some root cause of this; too much smoke in this area to be a coincidence. And of course, the "Professional CEO" relieved of his duties--and replaced by the company founder, returning on a white horse to his original role to refocus the company.

These things have been so common in corporate America. Business writers may have been able to perform an automated "search and replace" in their word processor and write a new, yet the same, story for each additional corporation unfortunate enough to make the headlines. So what's the deal with Dell--the details always tell the real story--and what happens from here?


ENORMOUS SUCCESS OVER TIME

First off, I want to give Dell Computer and Michael Dell their just due. This is one of the great success stories in corporate history. Started in a dorm room, Mr. Dell built the company into the dominant PC maker of its time, with a long history of exceptional growth and profitability. The company used the direct model at the time when it was counter-intuitive that this would allow a long run of success--which it did. The story of Dell is much more about what has been done right--than wrong. I had some limited contact with Mr. Dell years after Dell was already a large company. He was courteous and thoughtful and very impressive. I have nothing but great respect for the company and its founder.

Probably the strongest endorsement I can make of my opinion of the company, is that the last 3 computers that I've purchased have been Dells--even though I am a proud alumnus of HP.


THE FATE OF ALL BIG COMPANIES

But Dell has definitely hit a major pothole, and has had its reputation tarnished on many levels. As I've written before, these things inevitably happen to all successful large companies. Nothing great lasts forever--and it should be pointed out that at Dell, it's lasted a very long time.

Growth has leveled off, and they are no longer the darling of Wall Street's growth followers. Accounting scandals always reduce a company in the eyes of the public, and firing your CEO, who you've been raving about for a while, doesn't exactly induce confidence in your future. But I think the biggest issue for Dell, is that they've taken their eye off of the ball when it comes to quality--and even more importantly--customer service.

I've written about this in the past, and I think it has played a primary role in Dell's current problems. When I bought my first Dell computer, quality was almost unquestioned, and customer service and support was a real strength. Unlimited support was bundled in with the product, and it was great. Contrast that with the situation today: Now you are buying a product which is perceived as lower quality, and you almost can't talk to anyone about anything without a charge. If you are allowed to speak someone in support, it's hit or miss whether they are knowledgeable, or speak your language fluently. I really believe that the root of the problems has been what I'd call "too much of a good thing": The relentless drive to reduce costs. As the PC business matured, Dell was far and away the low cost producer, and used this fact to great advantage. I believe that they got carried away with this strategy, and took their eye off of the ball of what made the company great in the first place. Service/Support quality has become such an issue for Dell that they've acknowledged it publicly, and announced plans to make significant investments to fix customer service. But real damage to the Dell brand has already been done, in my opinion. I, along with many others, will be looking closely at HP and other competitors when it comes to future computer and related technology purchases.


SO WHERE DO THEY GO FROM HERE?

All great companies hit this point eventually, and with all the company has going for it, the problems are imminently fixable. Unlike most companies that hit a bump in the road at this point, it doesn't appear that it has happened because the company has become grossly "fat, dumb and happy", with a bloated bureaucracy. No doubt there is some bureaucracy with a company this size, but ironically, cutting in the wrong places has been the major problem. Michael Dell has announced that he will look at "new strategies" for the company in his return to the CEO role. I consider this a positive. Often founders want to "go back to the future", and return to what they know made them successful in the first place--I don't believe that this is the right answer here.


THE OBVIOUS ANSWERS

The first thing is to fix customer service and support, regardless of the cost. The brand will continue to suffer without this, and that would ultimately be deadly. Mr. Dell has announced that he plans to greatly reduce the number of direct reports to the CEO. If done for the right reasons, I applaud this directive.

Even in a famously lean company like Dell, a company at this size tends to become pretty bureaucratic. There tends to be a lot of people around with curious, abstract job titles, who only serve to slow down, and get in the way of progress. Personnel in companies this size often end up spending a lot of time in large internal meetings--talking to each other, instead of listening to the market. Getting ahead in a company at this mature stage often is dependent on bureaucratic skills, rather that creating actual marketplace value. It's usually important to cull the herd of extraneous roles, and simplify and focus business processes on only those things that create revenue and profit. This looks painful in the short run, but the company actually runs much more smoothly in the long run.

THE NOT SO OBVIOUS ANSWERS

A more difficult decision is whether to remain with a largely "direct-only" business model. This is particularly difficult for Dell, because it has always been what they've hung their hats on. In fact, years ago when I had a few discussions with senior managers at the company, the feeling among upper management was that they didn't know how to do other forms of distribution, and that they had failed in their few toe dips into indirect waters.

In hindsight, at that time, the decision to remain primarily direct-only was the right one. Enormous value has been created with that strategy--you can't question it in hindsight. But at this stage of the company's development, I believe that they really need to rethink this. There is evidence that they've run out of steam with a direct-only distribution model. In fact, Dell has been dealing with the channel in a very low key manner for years. But both sides have sort of looked at it like "dealing with the devil": do it because you have to, but be careful not to get burned.

In my opinion, while it may appear risky, it is time for Dell to look at becoming a company that wants to be a real business partner with the channel. Do they want to have a real chance to stay a growth company?(which I assume they do--this is where the high stock P/Es are). If so, there are few other choices other than indirect distribution, at their current size, that will enable the kind of growth opportunities required for real growth. As they've looked farther from their core computer offering, to find other things to push through their direct pipe, they've been much less successful--as generally is the case. They've not become a real player in consumer electronics, and while they were initially pretty good at giving away printers--they were not so good at selling them, or more importantly, the consumables which are the money maker in that business. The company should proceed carefully and thoughtfully in this regard. I'm sure that Mr. Dell has other initiatives that he is considering, but I'd be shocked if consideration of a major indirect distribution push isn't high on his list of possibilities.


SUMMARY

What happens from here? Your guess is as good as mine. It should be very interesting to watch what new strategy emerges, and if this company famous for execution can return to those ways--especially if the future includes a major strategy shift. Corporations that have been as successful as Dell for as long as it has usually have 9 lives (see Apple Computer), and Dell is only on its second, by my count. So I wouldn't bet against them.

That's my opinion--what's yours? Post a comment or send me an email.

Phil Morettini
PJM Consulting
www.pjmconsult.com